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    Druid talent suggestions, gameplay, stats.

    Post by Logaritmus on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:13 am

    Hi, this is going to be a guide for those, would like to roll a resto / feral druid but don't know how to, and are looking for some help for a starter.

    Let me point out, that these builds are set for my preferances, you can, and are adviced to change these specs as you get to know your playstyle. (other than that, any further information is always welcome, please no trolling.)

    Resto PvE
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0532003100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000230033312030502531053313051

    Glyph of Wild Growth
    Glyph of rapid rejuvenation
    Glyph of swiftmend

    That is my current spec, for PvE healing, not a spec for specificly either tank or raidhealing, but suits well for both roles.

    If you feel, you lack some haste, you can, and will want to go up to "Celestial Focus" in the balance tree, removing 3 points from Revitalize, and maybe 1 point from Living seed (that's what i would do)

    MY pvp healer spec is the following:
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0532003100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000230033312031502501353013251

    Completely defensive spec as you can clearly see, for this spec i am using:
    glyph of swiftmend
    glyph of Rejuvenation
    glyph of Regrowth or either glyph of nourish (I'M using Nourish)

    There are some more offensive PvP healer specs. That means, you go up to Insect swarm in Balance tree, and blow the rest of your points into resto. (this is not a spec i ever tried, so i can'T help with that, maybe some further posters can help you.)

    Feral tank

    I'm trying my best, as a tank, still gotta improve. my spec looks something like this:
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0000000000000000000000000000501232132320010353120300313511203403012000000000000000000

    Glyph of Mangle
    Glyph of Maul
    Glyph of Berserk

    The reason why i didn'T put any points into 'infected wounds' is simply, that I couldn't really find any other points, that could be removed, so i just didn't pick it. HEALERS, KEEP THE TANK ALIVE.

    Feral PvP:
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0000000000000000000000000000500232132320210053120333313511203500010000000000000000000

    My spec is once again defensive, we could say, it's designed for 1 v 1 battle. I go bearform, whenever i am being targeted (+ shitload of armor + 12% damage reduction) The reason why i didn'T pick 'Feral Instinct' is that no matter what you do, rogues will find you faster.

    as for when you do arenas with a healer and doN't have to worry that much about your health:
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0000000000000000000000000000503202132321212053120033313511203500010000000000000000000

    I fail as Balance, again, Looking forward to some further Poster's suggestions.

    Edit:
    With some help (credits go to shar) here is a balance pve dps spec:
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?druid#1827vWAg3YjC,,12213

    feral tank stats: I simply stack S.T.A.M.I.N.A. (using + strength: Cape, neck, and rings, as those provide more stamina than an agility ring would. a feral druid needs:
    Stamina
    Armour
    Agility ( AP + Dodge + armour)
    and from cape, ring, neck, try not to pick those, that have parry rating + or Shield block rate +
    you need + Dodge.

    Resto stats: you need
    -Spellpower (as any caster. This will boost your ammount of healing done with 1 spell)

    -Haste (some druids prefer haste over spellpower, I'm not one of them, still haste is really important, as it scales with Glyph of rapid rejuvenation, which is a fucking epic glyph. other than that, 0.9sec cast nourish is simply adorable.)

    - SPIRIT. (resto druids have a spell called Innervate, that pretty much prevents them from getting low on mana, especially when you gear up a bit, still spirit IS important, it gives you MANAREGEN, and as healer you always want to get MANA (other than that, in tree of life form, you gain 15% of you spirit as spellpower, which is once again cool)

    I hope, this will be a bit of help to those, interested in rolling a druid, Suggestions are welcome. + feel free to ask anything, i will try to answer.


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    Re: Druid talent suggestions, gameplay, stats.

    Post by Lifended on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:10 pm

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    Post by Logaritmus on Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:34 pm

    You've got to click "link to this build" button, before copy / pasting, because like that, u only pasted my PvE spec once again. please edit post.

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    Post by Lifended on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 pm

    Logaritmus wrote:You've got to click "link to this build" button, before copy / pasting, because like that, u only pasted my PvE spec once again. please edit post.
    pfff gamestool not even good
    http://wow335.gamestool.net/druidt.php?0532033100301000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000230023312231500501353013200
    Do note that if u think you need more defense than offense use 14/0/57
    I am running on 1083 resil and not having problems surviving with 21/0/50
    As for glyphs, im using
    Glyph of Moonfire
    Glyph of Insect Swarm
    Glyph of Swiftmend
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    Post by DarthKurgen on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:25 pm

    must admit i cant decide on staying feral tank or going balance for a bit more rdps funz
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    Post by 2fast4ucro on Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:19 pm

    moonfire glyph is bullshit in arena since most of ppl can and WILL dispel your debuffs and normal (talented) moonfire can help your partner in killing one target while his partner is cycloned or something :p

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    Post by Lifended on Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:38 am

    2fast4ucro wrote:moonfire glyph is bullshit in arena since most of ppl can and WILL dispel your debuffs and normal (talented) moonfire can help your partner in killing one target while his partner is cycloned or something :p
    If you lets say run with a warrior in arena, and face a paladin/x or priest/x team, if your warrior does a lot of pressure they won't have time to waste a gcd to dispel it.
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    Post by Mr.Teddy on Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:52 pm

    OK LISSEN Almo noes about sum durid things sinse the baginning. Maybe B4 durids was week & stuff but now Durids is very storng.

    1) OK, Sum durids is bare



    2) Tehm whos bare durids, can B 4 tank:



    ONLY DURID DONT HAF SUM PEEPS IN THE HEAD AND A GUNZ LOL!

    3) Man, sum bare druids can maek sum peeps poop in feer bc/ tehms so storng.



    4) Bare druids is not so good at uh moonfare spam but its OK b/c a bare durid haf many armors &

    when a thing hits durid, maybe thing gets borken hand LOL!

    5) Bare durids is 4 funs when u can charje & stun & haf sum armors lol.



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    OK LISSEN Also durid haf uh seel form.

    1) Seel is can fite, but is kind week.
    2) Seel for swim, is fast & dont breeth
    3) When seel is gone for fish, is nobody will catch.
    4) Seel is can teech frends how is swim



    ALSO I FORGETS

    Durid has can run fast form is TRAVEL FORM

    1) looks liek cheetuh
    2) dont cheet or u get bann LOL! JK!!
    3) Cheetuh can run fast and him is can run away frum trubul.


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    AND ASLO

    SUM DURIDS IS MOON KIN

    1) Them 1s is look all funny liek maybe form MOON! LOL!

    2) mostly uh moonkin is 4 a spam moonfare
    3) them haf sum good armors & fite storng.


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    DURIDS IS VEERY FAST AND STORNG IN PVP CAN CAST ROOT 4 MAKE PEEPS STOP WHEN MOVE!!



    bc Peeps can always ask if cat druid can B GOOD FOR FITE OR WHAT MAYBE?



    U NO CAT DURIDS IS VERY STORNG! SUM PEEPS DUNNO Y SO HEAR IS LIST

    1) OK now sum durid is cat

    2) Cat durid, tehm dosent heel.

    3) Cat uis for fite

    4) Cat durid dosent talk about fite

    5) when cat durid is FITE do not ask for HEEL and NINIRVATE!



    and CAT DURIDS is no spam moonfare! Sum cat durids dosent no wut is uh moonfare!

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    Post by Mr.Teddy on Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:59 pm

    DURIDS IS MUST ALWAYZ HALP EECH OTHER: sumtimes a new durid is need sum halp and advise frum a good durid so u shuld alway halp unother



    Even I lernd all this form DURID SCKOLL who has wut uh famus teecher there who is knows all this

    DURIDS IS HARD, & BUT STRONG

    SUM PEEPLE THINK DURIDS IS CANT BE BARE AND CAN ONLY HEEL AND THEM DOSENT

    NO THEY IS ALWAYS CAN SAY:



    BUT ONLY DONT LISSEN TO THEM.

    Durids is storng for bare or cat or seel or whatver and u dosent haf 2 heel if u dont liek heel


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    DURIDS IS 4 haf FUN TIME WIT FRENS every1 is like a fun time durid!!




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    Post by Logaritmus on Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:24 pm

    okay so continuing with some more info ON TOPIC
    A recently discovered bug, is that when anyone has your Living seed on, and a HoT ticks on him, the living seed is released with the HoT, and heals the target immediately for some nice ammount.

    i recently switched my Nourish glyph to glyph of wild growth which is epic for raiding 10 / 25 mans since Nourish glyph is no longer bugged, it works just as it's supposed to be.


    as for healing methods in raids (10mans as an example) i usually have wild growth on cd like 70% of the time. all those, who didn't get a wild growth, are given a rejuvenation, that's for some crappy low aoe damage.

    have 1 reju / regrowth on tanks all time so that u can swiftmend them when necesary. Regrowth, when they get hit by boss too frequently, otherwise just throw reju on them, no need to do unnecesary overheals.

    some dots put on random players, usually are nicely healed by 1 reju, or if not, let it go along with 1x lifebloom, nothing can go wrong.

    if any clothy pulls aggro from tank use the following macro:
    /blame %t (while targeting maintank)
    /target IGEN (just an example)
    /laugh
    /applaud
    then when the clothy is 1-shot, go and teabag them in bearform.
    OR
    when they are 1-shot either wait for the command from your leader and cbrezz them, while asking for " /y %t less afk" or just keep healing when the situation requires 2 healers.

    still, ANY topicwise suggestion is very welcome, I'd love to improve my healing skills aswell, so go on, don't be shy.



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    Post by 2fast4ucro on Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:35 am

    fucking OP druid's haste talent T_T

    my druid is casting almost as fast as my shaman but with 400 haste less and healing like 200 less with 900 bonus healing less, druids are OP

    locks are OP, fucking aftermath
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    Post by Logaritmus on Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:41 pm

    bump.
    recently i found that i fail pretty hard as pvp resto, so i am totally giving up on it.


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    Post by spookshire on Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:01 am

    Btw, log, I'd rather not waste my 3 points in King of Jungle in tanking spec cause I hardly use enrage during a boss fight.. I rather put 2 out of 3 points in feral instincts and the remaining point in Naturalist ..

    Because, I'll need my swipe to do insane damage if I want to keep aggro over shitloads of mobs like in Anub, Jara or Lady. I know you got Berserk for that but when it's on CD believe me swipe really helps me keep aggro .. Secondly, about naturalist, I selected this cause I wanted to bear Gashy's dps in bear form but I fail miserably, so like you have 1 extra point.. Use wherever u want to put it..

    Also, I like to post a feral PvE spec guide if u guys don't mind
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    Post by Mr.Teddy on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:09 am

    I have to agree swipe is pretty good with aggro :p more so then most think. Should I post my spec and rotation perhaps?
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    Post by Igen on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:24 am

    spookshire wrote:
    Also, I like to post a feral PvE spec guide if u guys don't mind
    go ahead
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    Post by Logaritmus on Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:58 pm

    Igen wrote:
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    Also, I like to post a feral PvE spec guide if u guys don't mind
    go ahead

    ^this


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    Post by Logaritmus on Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:12 am

    i have witnessed the most pro PvP macro for a balance druid.

    Behold Bearfall:

    /cast starfall
    /cast bear form
    /cast bash


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    Post by 2fast4ucro on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:19 am

    cept no, it gets canceled when you shift in anything other than human or chicken form

    before fix it was called papochopmacro

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    Post by spookshire on Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:46 am

    That was cool .. Starfall in gadgetzan /afk /bb /spit /laugh /mad

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